Hi everybody, an idea concerning the ginac homepage: rename the "ToDo List" to something like "Roadmap" and put some more information above the existing text. The new information could be some more or less detailed list of topics certain people are working on. List of things that will be implemented for the next release, etc. The text is supposed to be rather static, so no daily updates intented, and will be refreshed just in case some major changes are imminent. Apart from being more informative to the public, this might also serve as a means to co-ordinate the work of different developers. Is this idea viable? Regards, Jens
Jens Vollinga wrote:
Hi everybody,
an idea concerning the ginac homepage:
rename the "ToDo List" to something like "Roadmap" and put some more information above the existing text. The new information could be some more or less detailed list of topics certain people are working on. List of things that will be implemented for the next release, etc. The text is supposed to be rather static, so no daily updates intented, and will be refreshed just in case some major changes are imminent. Apart from being more informative to the public, this might also serve as a means to co-ordinate the work of different developers.
Why not? I could, for instance, explain what the difficulties were with Sasaki-Murao for somebody interested to pick up the work. Or, implementation ideas could be layed out. Wait! This sounds more and more like a Wiki, doesn't it? Or maybe this is going too far. What do other people think? -richy. -- Richard B. Kreckel <http://www.ginac.de/~kreckel/>
Dear all, On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Richard B. Kreckel wrote:
Why not? I could, for instance, explain what the difficulties were with Sasaki-Murao for somebody interested to pick up the work. Or, implementation ideas could be layed out.
Wait! This sounds more and more like a Wiki, doesn't it? Or maybe this is going too far. What do other people think?
A Wiki could certainly be interesting as it could be a very low-threshold way of discussing things. I sometimes come at http://senseis.xmp.net and the nice thing is that there are both sections that contain reference material and section where free discussion is going on. I certainly think that some ideas that now only exist in my head would be more readily discussed on a wiki than on the mailing list. Besides that, nobody is likely to look at mailing list discussions anymore if they are a bit old. It could be sort of like the coffee-machine discussions that would occur if the GiNaC community was not scattered all over the world. On the other hand, it could well be that the GiNaC community is a bit small to support a Wiki. I don't know. Best, Chris
Chris Dams wrote:
On the other hand, it could well be that the GiNaC community is a bit small to support a Wiki. I don't know.
True. But it just occurs to me: we could also wikfiy the FAQ which would bump a Wiki well above 10 or so pages! :) Regards -richy. -- Richard B. Kreckel <http://www.ginac.de/~kreckel/>
Hello everybody, I am bit skeptical about using a full-blown wiki for a "small" project like ginac. I really prefer having discussions on a mailing list rather than in a forum, because I like the fact, that you have an instant notification about responses. All the information that could be collected on the web site, like FAQ, release plans, on-going development, open problems, design issues, developers manual/guide, knowledge base, etc. ..., could in principle be put there in the old-fashioned way by editing HTML. On the other hand, a really small content management system (Wiki?) could be nice way to put the aforementioned topics on-line in a well structured way. So, with no forum and no excessive interface it would be okay with me. Do such systems exist? Regards, Jens
Hi! Jens Vollinga wrote:
I am bit skeptical about using a full-blown wiki for a "small" project like ginac.
I really prefer having discussions on a mailing list rather than in a forum, because I like the fact, that you have an instant notification about responses.
There are RSS or Atom feeds for that purpose, though I admit that I have no experience with such media.
All the information that could be collected on the web site, like FAQ, release plans, on-going development, open problems, design issues, developers manual/guide, knowledge base, etc. ..., could in principle be put there in the old-fashioned way by editing HTML.
I use to view Wikis as a sort of more easily editable web-pages with the added bonus of version history.
On the other hand, a really small content management system (Wiki?) could be nice way to put the aforementioned topics on-line in a well structured way. So, with no forum and no excessive interface it would be okay with me. Do such systems exist?
What do you mean with forum? Cheers -richy. -- Richard B. Kreckel <http://www.ginac.de/~kreckel/>
Hi, Richard B. Kreckel wrote:
I use to view Wikis as a sort of more easily editable web-pages with the added bonus of version history.
Such a wiki could be a nice thing to have. But how would it integrate with the rest of the ginac.de homepage? Make just one link (currently the ToDO link) point to a wiki page, or transform the whole ginac.de page into a wiki? I have no experience with the installation and maintainance of wikis. How much work is it to get it started?
What do you mean with forum?
Something where people post messages like on a mailing-list. The continuous dialogue between different people is then available as a web page. I don't need this. Mailing lists are fine with me as long as the developer group is small. Regards, Jens
Hi, Jens Vollinga wrote:
Such a wiki could be a nice thing to have. But how would it integrate with the rest of the ginac.de homepage? Make just one link (currently the ToDO link) point to a wiki page, or transform the whole ginac.de page into a wiki?
I wasn't considering transforming the whole website. That does not make sense for generated documentation, for instance.
I have no experience with the installation and maintainance of wikis. How much work is it to get it started?
Probably not much, since the necessary wikimedia-infrastructure is all installed on the machine. But setting one up is new for me, too. Christian?
What do you mean with forum?
Something where people post messages like on a mailing-list. The continuous dialogue between different people is then available as a web page. I don't need this. Mailing lists are fine with me as long as the developer group is small.
Full ACK. -richy. -- Richard B. Kreckel <http://www.ginac.de/~kreckel/>
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